Quote from Guido on 30.12.2020, 07:43

You can export as GPX and then import that GPX file into basecamp. To export as GPX: tap the route in your route list, now tap the Export GPX button (above the map preview).

Quote from johnnysneds on 30.05.2021, 23:20

After I have imported .GPX file into Garmin Basecamp (exported from Scenic App) the route is straight lines between waypoints. Im sure its just a simple setting somewhere however if someone could point me in the right direction before i start clicking like a mad man and mess everything up i would be forever in your debt.

I am using OSM generic routable map in Garmin Basecamp. Also just out or interest, what map does the Scenic App utilise?

Ive also noticed that the track that is included with the Scenic export is slightly off with the Basecamp road/data (approximately 50mtrs). If i try to create route from track I receive an error message "there was an error calculating this route". I assume this is because of the road discrepency which i would hazard a guess why it is not creating the route on import into basecamp.

Cheers

Johnny

Quote from Guido on 31.05.2021, 08:17

When you export a route from Scenic as a GPX file, the GPX file contains a couple of elements. Two routes, one track and (at least) two waypoints. One of the routes is Garmin compatible. I'm not sure what you would have to do in basecamp to make it calculate, but indeed I'm sure it's just a setting somewhere.

At the moment Scenic uses a 3rd party map provider that takes an extract from OSM and enriches it with some of their own data. Scenic 3 will switch to a new map provider though.

Quote from johnnysneds on 31.05.2021, 08:57

Hi,

 

Ok I eventually figured it all out and thanks for the input. I had (or the software had) the profile set incorrectly for the “Vias and Stops as Routepoints”, once set to “motorcycle” profile it routed correctly. The Garmin compatible route only has the start and finish waypoints. Initially I couldn’t see the route being displayed on the map. On further inspection I have my start and finish at the same place as I am creating “Loops” so its displaying as the shortest trips ever in history! I don’t really see the point of the Garmin Extension route if it only has the start/finish waypoints with nothing else in between, then it will just make up its own route ie whatever route preferences you have set A-B.

For some reason I cannot convert the imported “Track” to a route. I think I have narrowed this down to the OSM map I have installed in Basecamp and nothing to do with Scenic so all good there.

Good job by the way with the App. Hopefully it works out for me and I can get rid of this POS Garmin Zumo XT

 

Quote from JP-V4 on 31.05.2021, 10:41

Quote from Guido on May 31, 2021, 08:17

When you export a route from Scenic as a GPX file, the GPX file contains a couple of elements. Two routes, one track and (at least) two waypoints. One of the routes is Garmin compatible. I'm not sure what you would have to do in basecamp to make it calculate, but indeed I'm sure it's just a setting somewhere.

At the moment Scenic uses a 3rd party map provider that takes an extract from OSM and enriches it with some of their own data. Scenic 3 will switch to a new map provider though.

Hopefully with Michelin maps as an overlay, please !!!

Quote from johnnysneds on 09.06.2021, 09:04

When exporting a .gpx to another app within iOS it shows the correct routing and also some straight lines between waypoints. I assume this is a result of what you mentioned earlier ie Scenic app exporting x2 routes. I’ve attached a couple of screenshots from two different apps showing the same occurrence. In both those apps I cannot find a way to separate and remove the straight lines route. Is there maybe a way to separate/select which gpx file format you want prior to exporting from Scenic.

Another option would be to export the gpx to something like Garmin Basecamp on a PC and separate it there and then re-export however that’s not very streamlined.

Quote from Guido on 09.06.2021, 09:30

At the moment Scenic doesn't let you choose which elements you want to include in the GPX. I would argue that the GPX should be as complete as possible, making it usable for as many usages/apps/websites/programs as possible. The receiving app should actually let you choose which elements to import/show. Just like Scenic does when you import a GPX.

However I understand that not all app developers are that receptive to this argument 🙂. I will add this to the list for Scenic 3. Won't be in there from the beginning though.

Basecamp is a good workaround for the moment. There might be some other apps or programs that can remove elements from a GPX. Another alternative is to open the GPX in a text editor and remove the corresponding lines manually. A route starts with the <rte> and ends with </rte>. A track starts with <trk> and ends with </trk>

Quote from johnnysneds on 09.06.2021, 18:27

Ok I understand. A free text editor (screen shot attached for those who are interested) enabled me to remove the </rte> sections which were causing the straight lines. Most of these apps seem to only handle tracks. Wee bit of a pita but a doable workaround within iOS.

The main reason I paid for Scenic was for the Export GPX element so it would be nice if you could at some point implement export options. No rush😎

Thanks

Quote from PeteRT on 10.06.2021, 06:54

I downloaded iEditor and as you say with Scenic GPX export the file contains data under <rte> and <trk>

Interestingly if I push the Scenic export to Geo File Converter and do a GPX convert it removes the <rte> data. Another way to do the same thing. I use Geo File Converter to convert Google KMZ files from MyMap to GPX files for Scenic import. Geo File Converter is a nice little app for this purpose. Scenic WebApp can do the same KMZ conversion but if I'm using my phone only then I prefer the app.